Crime chief will be asked to reconsider police plan
Politicians are to call on Sir Clive Loader to rewrite his plans for policing the city and county.
Senior councillors will next week tell the elected police and crime commissioner they do not like the "tone and content" of his plans.
The motion, which will be debated by Leicestershire County Council on Wednesday, is the latest development in a row between the commissioner, who was elected three months ago, and county politicians and officials.
Last month, the Mercury reported a dispute which had broken out over how a £1.6 million Government crime-fighting fund should be spent.
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The money used to be paid directly to the county council, but now goes to Sir Clive, who is responsible for spending it.
Most it is pooled with other funding organisations to pay for services such as drug and alcohol treatment and work with troubled families and young offenders.
Sir Clive has told the council he will give it half the cash to cover the six months from April this year but not, for now, the full year's grant.
He has told the council he wants to see evidence the cash is being spent wisely and the projects it funds are delivering results.
The council said Sir Clive's decisions had been taken without sufficient consultation and have led to uncertainty about the future of some of those services and projects, as well as a number of jobs.
The council also says Sir Clive, former Air Chief Marshal of the RAF, does not understand the complexities of some of the funding arrangements.
County council members will be asked on Wednesday to call on Sir Clive to re-write his detailed plan for policing the city and county.
The document, which is still in its draft stage, sets out his priorities for the next three years.
Sir Clive said: "The role of the panel is to support and challenge me in the delivery of my statutory responsibilities and I fail to see what is to be gained from the process that has been adopted by the county council.
"We are currently consulting with the public regarding the plan. These are the people to whom I am wholly accountable and who will ultimately judge its success by outcomes instead of hasty assumptions based on historical habits.''
County councillor Joe Orson, who is also chairman of the police and crime panel, will present the motion at Wednesday's meeting.
Coun Orson said: "This is not a political dispute because the concerns are shared by all three parties. We have a record of reducing crime and anti-social behaviour by working in partnership.
"We want to hold our hand out to Sir Clive so we can continue to work in the same vein."
Sir Clive wants Chief Constable Simon Cole and his officers to continue to drive down offences such as burglary, vehicle crime, robbery, sexual assault, domestic abuse and alcohol-related violence.
He also set out his vision for dealing with alcohol and drug addiction.
The draft plan can be seen at:
www.leics.pcc.police.uk
Read an interview with Sir Clive Loader in More magazine, free inside Saturday's Leicester Mercury.
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by keiran
Wednesday, February 20 2013, 8:39AM
“boring bob...as usual you talk tosh.But I shall give you points for pointing out that the county council are having a go at him.Spot on.The silly man wants to know how they will spend money that can be allocated to them.What is wrong with that ?
Hang on a minute....is this the same council that let its leader get a few quid in his back pocket, that they signed off on,but have now decided they want the dosh back.But have failed to do anything to get it back.They must be your representatives of prudence.”
by Bob491
Saturday, February 16 2013, 2:50PM
“Quote: "Most police officers retire on a pension, which they have paid for, and take a second job."
The major difference here is the phrase 'which they have paid for'. Besides most retired police officers will not be receiving lucrative gold plated pensions, nor will they be receiving £75,000 a year for their second job.
This Con PCC, who was supported by just one person in every thirteen of the electorate, did not contribute to his lucrative gold plated pension so is raking in large quantities of 100% tax payer funded money.
And even the Con County Council doesn't think he knows what he is doing! Is anyone surprised given his complete lack of suitable experience.”
by democrat
Saturday, February 16 2013, 1:38PM
“bob
You said: 'he should not be receiving this pension'
Seems clear to me. Perhaps you wrote in haste again without 'comprehension' of the impact. I am happy for you to clarify why you do not want those that retire to work ever again (unless they give up their pension that they recieve for yesrs of service).”
by Bob491
Saturday, February 16 2013, 1:20PM
“Demo once again your comprehension skills are sadly lacking.
Unless you are just the usual dishonest Con, that is.”
by democrat
Saturday, February 16 2013, 12:43PM
“Bob
But you are advocating taking their pensions away - seems like contempt to me. Why not answer the question?”
by Bob491
Saturday, February 16 2013, 12:11PM
“Quote: "Why do you hold them in such contempt?"
Silly boy demo!”
by democrat
Saturday, February 16 2013, 12:01PM
“Bob
The armed services do not contribute to their pensions - I support this. What is your problem with those that risk their lives to protect us. I cannot see why you are now suggesting that the Armed Services or the Police or the Fire Service cannot take well-paid jobs when they retire. Why do you hold them in such contempt?”
by Bob491
Saturday, February 16 2013, 11:03AM
“Quote: "Most police officers retire on a pension, which they have paid for, and take a second job."
The major difference here is the phrase 'which they have paid for'. Besides most retired police officers will not be receiving lucrative gold plated pensions, nor will they be receiving £75,000 a year for their second job.
This Con PCC, who was supported by just one person in every thirteen of the electorate, did not contribute to his lucrative gold plated pension so is raking in large quantities of 100% tax payer funded money.
And even the Con County Council doesn't think he knows what he is doing! Is anyone surprised given his complete lack of suitable experience.”
by C_G_Lee
Saturday, February 16 2013, 8:56AM
“Bob491, in fact you are incorrect in your reference to retired poublic sector workers not being allowed to draw their pensions while continuing to work in other employment. Most police officers retire on a pension, which they have paid for, and take a second job. Indeed many take civilian posts within the police service, and why not? They have thirty years of police experience, which is invaluable to the service.
Similarly, Sir Clive is perfectly entitled to draw the pension to which he is entitled and to work in a second post which is in the public sector. I think he will be a good PCC as he has a vast experience of leadership in a disciplined service. I am sure that he also understands that the Chief Constable has his specific role which the PCC shold not interfere with. There will undoubtedly be other PCCs who do not have this sensibility.”
by keiran
Saturday, February 16 2013, 8:27AM
“@bob...we have not had time to make a sensible judgement on what the guy and his team will do.Unless you use the fortune teller in Beaumont Leys and have been given "the knowledge",I suggest you wait.
He worked,paid taxes,retired,got a pension.Fine.Got another job.Why not?
Lets consider someone else... mmm...Soulsby.
He worked,paid taxes,retired,got a pension.Fine.Got another job.Why not?
Both are paid for by taxation.Fine.
What has Loader achieved?Ruffled a few feathers so far,including LCC who want all the money allocated to them as they know how to manage their budget.The same ones whose leader was taking money for nothing and they cannot manage to get that back.Prudent eh?
What has Soulsby achieved?Mmm,now then let me think.....ah yes....immediate pay rise for him and those that voted him in.Bought a derilict ruin.Plans for £4million for a park.More bus lanes.Extend New Walk.Newarke Street to be Pete Plaza.Spend £300k on "meeting place" in Thurnby Lodge that residents did not want and Petes "sollution" was useless as it could not be afforded by his choice.Move council premises[correctly]to some others they own but take leases out on others whilst still owning empty properties.Buy a useless empty Post Office.Spend £600k on a few slabs in The Market.A few million on an almost empty park n ride[with diseased trees].Tell eveyone he is to spend £100k a pitch for gypsy sites.Even prepared to buy the ground.42 pitches.Sack 600+ staff,including street wardens and street cleaners.Close old peoples homes and homeless hostels........endless.
Tell me ,and the citizens of Leicester, he and his "yes pete "councillors are value for money.
How many police,nurses would that lot pay for?”