Gay marriage: Leicestershire MPs vote as bill is approved

“Grant2010, the Vicar doesn't have to check your sex.. quite funny though.. the Vicar or the Church or parish may object to the reason behind the marriage, or feel it inappropriate for you to marry in their parish. They always have the right to refuse - and it can't be seen as discrimination as they clearly have a code which pre-dates any sitting government by about 2000 years (in the case of Christian religions).

Either way - how many Bishops are there in the House of Lords - where the Bill goes next for rubber stamping?”

“And I thought it was about two people committing to each other till death does part for better or worse. Though admittedly I have been married for some time I cannot remember the vicar checking out our sex. I think he just assumed we had done that for ourselves, we were satisfied and there were no objections from the congregation.”

“"I thought civil partnerships were one of the few good things we got from thirteen years of Labour. At the very least, I expect a better debate over gay marriage than we've had so far. On the one side, it's religious denunciations that would have served just as well against Catholic Emancipation. On the other, it's vapid PC agitprop."

"One of the problems of this new law is that other laws will be used to shut down complaints about the moral validity of such unions."
- Dr Sean Gabb”

“Well, if you don't like the way your MP voted on this issue, either for or against........don't vote for them next time. It's quite simple really.

I didn't really appreciate how odd the member for Hinckley & Bosworth was though....mind you if the people of that constituency are crazy enough to vote for somebody previously found guilt of parliamentary misdemeanours, then they deserve him. You could probably pin a blue rosette on a pig in Hinckley and it would get into the House of Commons.”

“@phreakdown and jaybe11. My comment was not pro-Tredinnick, in fact I must confess ignorance ofmost of his activities. It was more a case of acknowledging the pull that the moon has on us. People did indeed avoid surgery on a full moon pre-technology and in the bad old days of asylums the 'inmates' were always extremely lively around a full moon. Where do you think the term lunatics came from?”

“oh well,that has made it ok for a few more thousand to have a right to live in England.”

“Ok to verify my statements,

It is my understanding that the Church were pretty much against Gay Marriage.

http://tinyurl.com/ag3e63n

The house of Bishops were trying to persuade the House of Commons to vote against it.

No matter how many faiths there are within this country, our Monarch, who's crown is the Motif for our Government is the head of the Anglican Church. All of the state occasions within this country are based on Christian values.

The majority in the house of commons voted ignore the concerns of the Church.
Hence my quizzical statement.

I haven't stated whether I am in favour of the bill or not.

Churches will have the right to refuse to marry Same Sex Couples in their Buildings,
in the same way they have the right to refuse to marry Hetero Sexual Couples. Everyone who marries in a church has their bans read, and has to meet the vicar. Nothing will change.

One thing that will need to be sorted out.

GAY DIVORCE - who is entitled to what, who is a dependant? and will Hetero Sexual divorce be changed to ensure parity?

Will there be Gay marriages of Convenience?

Like I said, I have not stated my position, nor am I going to? I just look at the whole argument.”

“The church takes money off gay people in the form of contributions. The church has gay priest and Bishops. I can't understand why gay people would want to be married in a church that takes money off them but looks upon them as second rate. I bet that when the church realises the value and quantity of the pink £ they will change their oppinion.”

“fooberryjane, i'm intrigued by your comment - are you suggesting the British Broadcasting Corporation shouldn't report on British politics?”

“I'm all for Straight people being given the capacity to have a Civil Partnership if it is generally accepted that they have a role in modern Britain regardless of being aimed at Same sex or different sex unions.

I would assume that Civil Partnerships not being debated yesterday possibly has more to do with avoiding a worst case scenario that the same sex marriage bill would be rejected and then the civil partners bill voted down and cancelled, meaning that we would have gone from a concession for Homosexuals to having nothing again (like pre 2008).

I don't think there is a gay person across the country that wouldn't love to see civil partnerships being permitted for all! After all, it was a concession to appease the far right and religious groups 5 yrs ago, if it has now become ingrained in society and Heterosexual's now want to conduct a ceremony that has absolutely no connotations with religion, that for me, is great!!”