Inquiry is launched as patient dies on ward

“by DonHenson
Saturday, June 30 2012, 5:02AM
."There have been far too many deaths of patients in the care of LPT. So many of them had the same issues at their core, and still the lessons "have been learnt". Until the next...and the next..."
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That is a very sweeping statement. What number is acceptable? Do you have comparison figures with other PT's? Do you distinguish between elderly care and say orthopaedic? In saying "to many" you seem to imply suspicious, if that is wrong then change the expression.”

“Don Henson: what is the core issue,do you think?”

“If a coroner is investigating cause of death then open to public view it will be. The investigation is currently internal but surely if the nursing council are involved that will mean public knowledge of the facts??”

“Simple answer to LilyPatience is yes. In some cases sanctions against employees/employers and/ or prosecutions have followed. However regardless of fault lessons can and should be learnt by open and frank investigation. That is clearly not happening at the moment, we we have a system that believes in cover-up unless it proves impossible to cover -up and I am not just talking about the NHS.”

“There have been far too many deaths of patients in the care of LPT. So many of them had the same issues at their core, and still the lessons "have been learnt". Until the next...and the next...”

“some years ago there was a death in the childrens hospital where a patient was found in rigor mortis in the morning and no one realized overnight that a patient under their care had died..This patient had a easily correctable metabolic abnormality.But because he was a patient of a major oligarch who was subequently appointed as the head of pediatrics no one heard about this! Unless the DH changes the way this trust functions
ns there will be many such stories”

“I agree CGLee and also death is sad for the family and I imagine stressful for those duty. A death has to be reported to the police, but why has this hit the press? Maybe because it's a mental health patient?! I would like to read how nurses are doing a damn hard job and the lives saved, the self harm patched up, the patients stopped from absconding , just once, please!!”

“Grant2010, I think you're jumping the gune here, unlpess you know something the rest of us don,t.

1. We don't yet know the cause of death (it could be natural causes)

2. We don't know why the person was in the hospital (who's to say it was a detention under the Mental Health Act).

It's easy to jump to conclusions, but until we know the full facts it is not fair to imply criticism of the staff at the hospital.”

“If a death is unexpected and not suspiscious, is someone at fault?”

“Too many deaths in mental health establishments, too many "lessons will be learnt" until the next one.

Too many internal investigations and not enough independent ones.”