Leicestershire Police is one of the best employers for gay people, according to Stonewall

“Why does the company you work for need to no your sexuality anyway ?”

“mam35 - Firstly, thanks for the intelligent response, which is unfortunately too uncommon on here, but in this day and age I'd say well over 90% of companies don't descriminate against gay people. If they do, they are breaking the law. Inclusion policies are always rocky ground. How do you bring about more interest and inclusion from one particular group, in this instance gay people, without that policy treating that group differently in some way?? And if it's treating people differently, the policy itself is discriminatory. As you say "policies that benefit gay people" if the only thing we are after is equality, how can a policy be seen to benefit one group? and if it doesn't, then again, how can this list be any different to The Sunday Times list? The county council once wanted to promote employment and inclusion of ethnic minorities, how did they do this? they introduced a policy where when any person of ethnic minority applied for a job, they would get specific coaching and help with filling in the application form and interview techniques. How does this promote non-discriminatory working practices??

As I say, I'm absolutely a supporter of equal rights for all, but equal rights must mean equal rights. Too often I feel that equality organisations are more focused on getting a better deal for their members, and not on equality. I appreciate that in the past these organisations have done great work to fight for equality, and the britain we live in today is much better for it. But I feel that in the most part, the aims of these groups have now been achieved, and now the balance is tipping to where these organisations are actually pushing for preferential treatment.”

“mam35, I'm stunned that someone red arrowed your comment. I've negated it with a green one! There are some horrible bigots in the world aren't there (how on earth can anyone take offence at your post?!)?”

“Its based on the Stonewall workplace equality Index.. they survey is not specific to any paticular policy for gay people alone, its an online survey the employers fill in about anti-discrimatory and inclusion policies and practices that Stonewall consider would benefit gay people. Obviously if a company has good anti-discrimatory and inclusion policies then they will be a good employer for gay people, and probably a good all round employer for all employees.”

“"I really don't understand why there is a difference between the rights of homosexual people and the rights of everyone"

There isn't. You miss the point entirely. All they are asking for IS the same rights as everyone else, which much of the time many of them don't have.”

“I really don't understand why there is a difference between the rights of homosexual people and the rights of everyone. Equally why there would be the difference between the rights of any class of people and everyone. f007e comments that The Sunday Times has a list of the best companies to work for, how is this list any less applicable to homosexual people??

Surely the only way a workplace could be "Best for Gay People" surely a workplace either complies with the law, and is non-discriminatory, or it doesn't??

I'm worried when people can say that a certain employer is better for gay people than another, or any group for that matter. Why are those benefits not universal for all employees? If they were then surely the Stonewall list should be the same as the list in The Sunday Times??? By saying that this company is better, or that company is better, it suggests that the group is getting preferential treatment.

I fully support everyones right to be treated fairly and equally, but giving one group of people more rights than another does not do that.”

“Wots it got to do with any body what 2 people do in the privacy of there own homes whether it's between a f/m or f/f or m/m I ain't bothered so long as there've been employed as the best person to do the job not because of there sexuality or colour”

“Mamm and Bikerdan.

Your final comments make sense to me and fully respect your opinions”

“Shushhh...

It is only natural that any part of society that has faced discrimination, for whatever reason, will want to fight for and then protect their rights. It wasn't so long ago that people were sacked for being gay in certain workplaces, my mother-in-law has been with her partner for over 30 years, when their relationship was first discovered her partner was sacked. When you have faced discrimination, you don't just forget about it, you want to ensure it doesnt happen again, even if times have changed.”

“Why do we need a list for X minority group?
Why do we need a list for Y minority group?
Why do we need a list for Z minority group?

Because people within that minority social group may find the information held within the list useful when making life choices like, where would be safest for them to work,travel socialise etc

As already mentioned Shushhh if it concerns you, your free to register your own charity and champion the rights of the marginalised Heterosexuals up and down the country.”