MP Nicky Morgan: Businesses' Budget views wanted

“Bob

Third time lucky you hope this time eh?

Still interested to undertstand which tax rises hammered the poor by the way?”

“Bob

Just what were these tax increases that you keep incorrectly referring to?

As I recall, Osborne increased the personal income tax allowance to £9,205 from April 2013 - a move that made 24 million people £220 better off. In real terms, the change amounted to £170 more a year for a basic rate taxpayer.

But to be fair 300,000 more people were be drawn into the higher rate - 40% - tax band from 2013/14 as the threshold was reduced from £42,475 to £41,450 - but hey they are overwealthy anyway according to you.

I hope that whatever Public Sector job you have it does not involve finance. Your confusion about the difference between tax and benefits is very very worrying but given that Public Sector salaries and benefits all come from tax on the productive (Private) part of the economy it must be an easy mistake to make. All socialists some how seem to feel that it is their right to take other peoples money.

There was a tax increase this year and next though as you know. Your hero Peter has decided that we must pay more tax to fund his empire (you never comment on this I note) so what Osborne gives - Peter takes. It is Labour that like hammering everyone Bob.”

“Bob491 suggests that Conservatives are typically dishonest. As someone who dislikes politicians of all colours, I have found that socialists are usually more dishonest.

However, they are far better propagandists, so their lies are believed.

It is striking that almost everyone believes that Hitler invented the theory of "a big lie being told often enough will be believed" in "Mein Kampf" in 1923.

It was, in fact, Lenin in 1917.

So the Right gets the blame, while the guilt is with the Left. But the Left walks away scot-free.

A bit like Gordon Brown and George Osborne.”

“Oh Bob

More copy paste again

Just wondering - where in the Public Sector is it you 'work''?”

“I constantly find it amazing that those that have so much begrudge even a little to those who have so little.

Fortunately I was brought up properly to consider others, not just myself. The Cons should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

The bedroom tax, like many other taxes brought in by Osborne's dreadful budget last year that hammered the unwealthy, women, children, pensioners and the disabled whilst giving incredibly large tax cuts to the over wealthy, are symptomatic of their selfish greedy nature.”

“Oh dear Bob - you do find it all a bit difficult to grasp don't you?

'Most people' will call it nothing of the sort as this does not apply to 'most people'. It is a shame that your beloved Labour party failed miserably to come even close to building as much social housing as the Conservatives did. It is also a shame that they flooded the Country with new voters that drive down wages/drive up rents for the very unwealthy that you claim (and it is just a hollow claim) to be soooooooooooo concerned about.

I am amused by your new found concern regarding the Armed Forces though. One minute you want to steal their pensions - the next minute you are using them (strange how socialists always do this) for your own political ends. I am sure that all those service personnel that lost their lives because Gordon Brown felt that inflating the Public Sector was a more important use of money than adequate numbers of helicopters or armoured vehicles. The real scandal is that your average squaddie is paid so little but don't worry Bob - there are plenty of working class white boys in teh queue.

Of course in a soldier chooses to live at home rather than taking free MOD accommodation and his/her parents are in receipt of benefits it is only right that he pays bed & board.

How do you feel about the familes of prisoners being exempt by the way? Any thoughts?

As for Foster Parents. As you know Bob - the people that would be impacted by this are very very few as they would have to be living in Social Housing and in receipt of Housing Benefit. But as you know (or probably don't) all foster payments are exempt for income tax and exempt from calculation of benefits up to around £25,000 per annum.

I guess that you will join me in advocating (in the spirit of helping the unwealthy) that all foster parents including those perhaps struggling by in their own home but facing an inceased Council Tax bill next year (thanks to Peter Soulsby) should get more money to help with mortgage payments?

The key word that you missed is 'some'.

Some soldiers families and some foster parents but why worry about facts eh Bob? You've got you public sector job and your museums and your block paving - all is well with (your) world.”

“We will have to agree to differ.

Most people will continue to call it a bedroom tax, and a remarkably unfair bedroom tax at that.

And most people will also be disgusted to learn that:

this bedroom tax forces parents of young soldiers to pay extra for rooms occupied by their children when they are not absent in Afghanistan?

this bedroom tax does not recognise foster children at all - which means that foster parents have to pay bedroom tax on all rooms occupied by their foster children.

the Con minister in charge of the bedroom tax has a mansion with no less than ten bedrooms.

But you demo are obviously perfectly happy with it. There's a surprise!”

“Bob

Thanks for copy/pasting extracts from your previous comments when as per usual you fail to address your errors

I can assure you that I can read and fully understand your comments - after all I have seen them a couple of dozen times already.

So, as I said - it is not a tax. It's a reduction in benefits, benefits that are financed by those of use that actually pay tax from our modest static incomes, living in our modest homes (which we will of course be paying increased Council Tax on again next year).”

“Quote: "Though if you're overwealthy, out of touch and remarkably selfish, I can see why you don't like the name."

Bedroom tax it is then. And yet another tax on the unwealthy, women, children and the disabled, especially those in the larger towns and cities.

Someone has to pay to keep the over wealthy in the lap of luxury, don't they.”

“Bob

It is not a tax - it is a reduction in benefits. Please try to keep up

I didn't realise that IDS lived in a Council House though - thats news to me”