Police job race unfair, PM told

“garyb2011, yet again your wild imagination is leading you astray.

I suggested Bridgen was unfairly paying himself too much - more for just six hours work that one of his 17 year old constituents could expect to receive for a whole year of full time work! (in addition to his MP's salary and expenses) I did not question his ability, nor his spuds.

And your tirade against Leicester's Mayor is typical. But you forget that creating elected Mayors in large cities was another pet project of our dishonest PM Cameron. As it happens almost 50,000 people voted for Sir Peter Soulsby as first choice.

So no doubt your tirade will soon spread to the soon to be vastly overpaid police and crime commissioner - how much will he or she be receiving for merely overseeing the Chief Constable who after all does all the work and carries all the responsibility? And how much more or less will the PCC receive compared to Sir Peter Soulsby, who again does all the work and carries all the responsibility?

And how on earth do you end up with " Labour = Good and Conservatives = Bad" when I have merely correctly labelled Cameron as dishonest and Osborne as incompetent, and I have quite clearly stated many times that I have never voted Labour or for any more left wing party.

I guess it's because it is you that thinks that Labour = bad and Conservatives = good. There's a surprise!

ps as for the red arrows, I've always enjoyed watching their displays!”

“Ah Bob

At last we get back to your basic standpoint that Labour = Good and Conservatives = Bad. If only life were that simple. Your rabid attacks only end up with you tying yourself in knots beacuse you forget what your previous argument was.

You suggest that these roles have been created by Cameron to allow Conservatives to earn big money. I do not recall you being so critical of the actions of the Labour Party in Leicester in creating a a big money role for SPS. I guess that the truth is that in your eyes that decision was OK because one of yours ended up with the job? We can all see that what really grates with you is the possiblity that a Conservative may win - but hey - thats democracy!

As for Andrew Bridgen - I cannot comment on how good an MP he is because my concerns are the slow motion car crash that is Leicester City Council. But in your comments to again reveal the sheer envy of your position (despite some of your more apparantly balanced previous comments on business).

Andrew Bridgen served in the Armed Forces (you liked them the other day) and has come into politics after helping build a family business that employs 230 people. He is not a professional politican that whose sole goal from birth was to to become an MP. He has real exprience. Also, he has real responsibilites to his and his family's business and to the people he employs. I think it perfectly reasonable to take a handful of hours out to ensure that he fulfills his responsibilities and in the meantime he his keeping in touch with the real realties of running a business (you liked them the other day or is his business a 'bad' business?). Also, what he chooses to pay himself from the business he owns is his decsion to take or do you think that the Government can spend it better!?

The bottom line his that if he does a bad job as an MP he will get voted out.

If he does a bad job in business then he loses, his family loses and 230 people and their families lose.

If SPS does a bad job or any of the other Labour cronies they get a big Public Sector pension and if really lucky a job with the EU or UN.

Get some perspective and balance or let the red arrows continue to pile up.”

“garyb2011, yet again you are trying to claim I said things which I plainly did not. How dishonest can you get.

You were wrong, and dare not admit it. He does not live in Leicester or Leicestershire as you claimed. I know where he lives since he retired as I double checked my facts, and I was correct in stating "he knows little if anything about Leicester or most of the surrounding area".

However I do not consider creating police and crime commissioners to be a good idea. Many others share that view. I am also horrified at the large amount such commissioners will be paid, out of tax payers money.

No doubt our dishonest PM Cameron considered that few Cons would be attracted to such a post without an enormous pay cheque. We have already seen how local MP the Con Bridgen pays himself more for six hours easy 'work' than a 17 year old constituent could expect to receive for a whole year's hard labour of 37 hour weeks. And that is on top of his generous MP's salary, expenses and anything else he gets on the side.

So I suggest that all those who consider that the post of police and crime commissioner is not needed, and who believe it to be considerably overpaid, should ensure they vote for any candidate but a Con.

And no I did not imply anything negative about his flying ability, and no I did not say I believe that it is manadatory that any candidate should live here. These are both figments of your wild imagination. Do grow up!”

“Ah Bob

I said I believe that he was based here - I have written to him to confirm as I prefer to deal with facts. Of course you choose to pick on this one point thus avoiding the strong credentials he has from his leadership roles in the armed services.

I guess that even you would struggle to dismiss the facts but I note that you cannot resist implying something negative about his flying ability.

Anyway, if you believe that it is manadatory that any candidate should live here, I am surprised that you are not critical about Jon Ashworth and LIz Kendall who only moved here when safes seats were found for them.”

“Politics and the police (and for that matter the armed forces - amazing how many of the top bods are Tory) do not mix.”

“garyb, do brush up on your comprehension skills and stop saying I said things which I did not.

My comment that he 'knows little if anything about Leicester or most of the surrounding area' is correct, while you are wrong. He does not live in Leicester or Leicestershire, has I believe never done so and he is in fact a local councillor where has lived since he retired.

'Pie in the sky' referred to his flying ability.”

“Steve Balkin's comments are interesting considering he is former BNP.

If me Nagdi comments are to be taken on board then there would be BNP candidates for this office, the BNP advocate corporal punishment,a police commissioner that believes in proper punishment for crimes surely would not be a good thing?”

“Voting for someone because they are 'Independant' is fine providing they have the skills to do the job. However, examination of his skills suggest that he is a little off the wall at best.

Bob - interesting that you laud the Armed Forces in another post yet are dismissive in this. Yet again your political loyalties get in the way of you being able to rationally assess which candidate would do the best job.

I would suggest that someone who has actively put his life on the line for the Country, has led 31,500 personnel and managed a budget of just over £2.6 billion would be somewhat better qualified than most. Certainly better than some nondescript local councillor or community adviser. More importantly he understands the dynamics of large organisations that have to operate in stressful situations. As you know (and have already agreed elsewhere) the military have to deliver even when money is tight - seems a good fit with the situation the Police are in. The bottom line is that he is a genuine leader and we have precious few of them around at present.

I do not understand how you can make the statement that he knows little of the area. He was based here (by here I mean the County) and as far as I know he lives here. Don't forget it is Leicestershire Police not Leicester City Police.”

“CGLee, I have never voted Labour and I do not support the Con policy of creating a police commissioner.

Your favoured ideal of voting for an independent is laudable, but it is too important a job to hand to anyone however inexperienced or incompetent just because they say they are independent. All we are likely to know of this candidate is his name and that his platform is that police should not be politicised. Not much to go on is it. So he might or might not be a businessman - well many of these are good, but many are not. And he may have strong political views which we may strongly disagree with if we knew what they were.

But I am not a gambler!”

“The main political parties have always had an advantage. Shortly prior to a national general election the State controlled BBC constantly keeps repeating: "the three main parties", this is a deliberate brainwashing exercise. The voters then think it's pointless voting for anyone outside of the Labour/Tory/Lib-Dem coalition who all have exactly the same policies -- it's a trap!
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