'If we allow gay men to marry, why not siblings?'
Controversial Euro MP Roger Helmer has criticised moves to legalise gay marriage, saying: "If two men have a right to marry, how can we deny the same right to two siblings?"
Civil partnerships have been available under UK law since 2004 and give two people the same rights as marriage. However, the two processes are technically different.
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Euro MP Roger Helmer
Prime Minister David Cameron has said that he wants to legalise gay marriage in the UK, but Britain's most senior Catholic, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, said the move would go against "natural law".
On his blog yesterday, Mr Helmer, who lives in Ashby Magna and represents the East Midlands, wrote: "Cardinal O'Brien makes the point, quite reasonably, that once you start to tamper with the institution of marriage, you get into some very murky water indeed.
"If two men can be married, why not three men? Or a two men and a woman? He could have gone further. Why not a commune? If two men have a right to marry, how can we deny the same right to two siblings? Are we to authorise incest?"
Responding to Cardinal O'Brien's claim that plans to legalise gay marriage were "a grotesque subversion of a universally accepted human right", Mr Helmer wrote: "Brilliant. I wish I'd thought of the phrase. Perhaps he ought to be a politician."
It comes just a few days after Mr Helmer defected from the Conservatives to join the UK Independence Party, saying that David Cameron was "too left wing".
However, his comments on gay marriage immediately came in for criticism.
Canon Barry Naylor, urban canon at Leicester Cathedral, said: "Comments like that are clearly intended to be offensive.
"I rarely agree with what David Cameron has to say, but I believe his proposal to legalise same-sex marriage would actually strengthen the institution of marriage, rather than weaken it."
Peter Adams, 65, who lives in Leicester city centre, and works with gay and lesbian people in the area, said: "Mr Helmer's comments are ridiculous. It's such an unintelligent remark to make that you can't give it any credence. There's no logical step between same-sex marriage and incest."
When asked by the Mercury whether his comments were offensive, Mr Helmer said: "I don't think so. I've nothing against homosexuals, they can do what they like.
"But marriage has been recognised for thousands of years as a bond as being between a man and a woman. It's the best environment in which to raise children."
The Very Rev Vivienne Faull, Dean of Leicester, said: "Our position is quite clear; the Church recognises arrangements made by the state for two people of the same sex to be in a civil partnership.
"However, the Church itself only recognises marriage as between a man and woman exclusively.
"The only way to change this is through the General Synod of the Church of England.
"However, a debate on this issue has not been scheduled yet."
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE? Marriages and civil partnerships
Legally, civil partners must be treated the same as married couples on a wide range of legal matters such as inheritance tax.
However a same-sex couple who have had a civil partnership cannot currently claim to be married.
Campaigners, such as Peter Tatchell, say that having a two-tier system for recognising the partnership between two people is a form of “apartheid”.
The Government could overhaul the law on marriage itself, allowing same-sex couples to have civil weddings and declare themselves “married”, rather than simply in a civil partnership.
Any proposal to introduce same-sex marriages would refer to civil marriages, in register offices and other licensed venues, rather than church weddings.
No church or religious group could be forced to host a civil partnership ceremony against their will under the Equality Act.







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by Boy_Bono
Tuesday, March 13 2012, 3:02AM
“I have no brothers or sisters. However, I think it should be legalised. At the end of the day, if two people love each other regardless if they are related by blood or not, then no-one should intervene. No-one else is affected except for the party concerned.
Same for homosexuals. Okay, I can see why people would disagree with it since marriage is, in a religious person's eyes (which I don't have) is a symbolisation of a man and woman who are joined in God's ordinance to 'go forth and multiply'. But, not everyone is religious. Therefore, marriage is interpreted by the person based on beliefs rather than beliefs which aren't there own.
I'm all for gay marriage, and sibling marriage. And, for those who are religious...we are all essentially inbred considering our common ancestors are Adam & Eve.”
by velez
Monday, March 12 2012, 2:33PM
“everyone do want they wants, everybody have humans right, why is bad two men or two women go to marriage? is afecting you o me? the children are lot waiting for adoption.”
by Kelly_S
Monday, March 12 2012, 1:39PM
“oh dear lord! I didn't know that by being gay your chances of giving birth defects to your babies increased or that homosexuality went hand in hand with bigamy! Clearly I misunderstood gays to be normal human beings - some more promisucious than others - in the same way as heterosexuals”
by ruweller
Monday, March 12 2012, 12:47PM
“I guess everyone agrees Roger probably wishes he had engaged brain before opening his mouth, however for those who must quote the bible! Who on earth did Adam and Eves children further the human race with?”
by Martin8
Monday, March 12 2012, 12:00PM
“I can't think for one minute anyone would back his comments?”
by LikeItaLot
Sunday, March 11 2012, 9:59PM
“er. perhaps the other place now I think about it”
by LikeItaLot
Sunday, March 11 2012, 9:05PM
“And UKIP are welcoming this man with open arms it seems. Says it all about both parties really, they are a marriage made in heaven !”
by The_Poacher
Sunday, March 11 2012, 6:58PM
“It's about time MPs and MEPs who change parties are forced to immediately stand for re-election.”
by o8o46o
Friday, March 09 2012, 6:19PM
“what a ridiculous comparison mr helmer makes. two same sex people who want to show their love and commitment to each other can no way be likened to a brother and sister being allowed to marry. we know from experience that people who have children with a close relatives have a high incidence of bearing children with severe disabilities. is that fair to the child. that is one good reason why brother and sister marriage should not be allowed”
by Earth_calling
Friday, March 09 2012, 5:12PM
“Oh dear. I despair.”