Monday, October 29 2012, 1:35AM
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Monday, October 29 2012, 9:47AM
“What does the law have to do with Daylight saving time?
We are actually in Greenwich Mean time at the moment.
The Deviation occurs during summer.
We are in international standard "Zulu" Time - the time by which all clocks world wide are synchronised. All communications and accurate counting systems are based on this.
290946Z Oct - equates to 291046A Oct.
Do you propose we ditch Greenwich mean time?
If you stay in BST by December It'll still be dark at half past 8 in the Morning.”
Monday, October 29 2012, 10:44AM
“We have this argument every year. Personaly I would rather have darker mornings and lighter evenings so we should adopt BST all year round, but I am sure this debate will run and run.”
Monday, October 29 2012, 1:40PM
“If we adopted BST all year round 4_Stroke, would we adjust all Datum and Reference Points to reflect that GMT no longer exists? Why not simply do as many businesses already do,
Change opening and closing hours. (Work Start and finish times) around the adjustment.
The lighter evenings are only relative to when you finish whatever it is that you do.
Your Daylight hours are already condensed in winter. Would you sooner have people travelling during darker mornings when people aren't fully awake and frosts haven't thawed? And those who are late trying to rush during these conditions with School Children on the roads.
Going home from work doesn't have to be rushed - you won't get the sack for being late home, so there is less pressure, and therefore less stress, and temperatures descend in the evenings but traffic and footfall lessen the effect. It's less dangerous as Schools don't finish at the same time as work, so in theory there is less risk. The mornings, everyone is out at the same time, so it makes sense to have lighter mornings.
Like I said, why not just change working hours like they do in Finland.”
Tuesday, October 30 2012, 3:42PM
“Chappy1884 "If we adopted BST all year round 4_Stroke, would we adjust all Datum and Reference Points to reflect that GMT no longer exists? "No change to datum points, GMT is GMT, the same as it is in the summer. We would just be GMT - 1 Changing the opening and closing times of every business in the UK twice a year would be far more complex than just changing the base time, once and for all.”
Wednesday, October 31 2012, 8:47AM
“Would it be so difficult to Change the opening and closing times?
I concur that in reality GMT would still exist, but why remain in BST, we could quite easily remain in GMT. You say that it would be complex to adjust working patterns twice yearly,
but we already do, when we adjust the clocks, we effectively adjust our working patterns.
And we become further out of sync with countries who don't make the adjustment, at one end of the scale, and closer to those at the other end.
As I already mentioned Dark Mornings would be more hazardous when frosts take hold overnight, than settling frost in the evenings. Everyone is mobile at a similar time in the Morning, where finish times are staggered, so it's also safer to have lighter mornings, as people aren't fully alert.
Many businesses already operate seasonal operating hours. for the following reasons.
During summer there is less requirement for lighting in some businesses,
During winter they can reduce their overheads by taking advantage of early daylight.
Many Logistics companies have night shift drivers in summer, but reduce their nightime hours in winter because of weather, accidents and increased cost of cleaning and maintenance.
In businesses and countries where this is normal practice it is not a problem, but in our country, any slight alteration is always such a big upheaval that we can't be bothered, which is probably why we have fallen down the pecking order as a global player.”
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