Saturday, October 13 2012, 10:08AM
“Not sure on what to do with them all.Sign of the times.One good use of an empty space was the use of the former Barclays Bank,on Town Hall Square to give book away,free.It was a real success.It encouraged people of all ages/class/religeon to read.Sadly closed.But they want to return.They stop books going to land fill or incinerator.The owners of the property gain tax relief as well.Early this year they were given a warehouse in London,for people to off load anything not wanted from Chrismas,or just stuff they did not want .All the stuff was then put on display to be taken away.It all went.From a cup to computers to tvs.Donations accepted for charity.So if you know of someone who wants to get a property used and benefit this"green City"http://tinyurl.com/9jrsspdhttp://tinyurl.com/8k8n7yzEstablished in many Towns and Cities throughout England .”
Saturday, October 13 2012, 12:26PM
“These empty spaces can be given to the students who wish to start their own business or those who can't afford to pay high rents for the shops.No use leaving them empty! At least some one would try and be successful and the these days economics is not good anyway.”
Saturday, October 13 2012, 5:27PM
“LOWER THE RENT - its quite straight forward”
Saturday, October 13 2012, 10:13PM
“telephone7- when Pete was asked this question on TV he,like most people in his position, did not answer the question.”
Sunday, October 14 2012, 12:27PM
“Face it, city centre shops within the next ten years are doomed! Apart from charity shops commercial premises have had their day with high rents, rates and utility bills. I'm 80, with the exception of food and every day needs I do most of my shopping on line; it's cheaper and quicker. What will happen to the properties? Within 25 years they will have died a natural death and bull-nosed down.”
Sunday, October 14 2012, 10:47PM
“Have you considered that not all of the shops may be owned by the same person?The rent is set by the owner or their agent. Any agent worth their salt will tell the owner to lower the rent to attract a tenant, as the owner pays maintenance and council tax on a continually empty building. Which is why a lot of places do six months free or reduced rent.Problem is you end up with a town full of cash for golds, cheap card shops, christmas calendar shops or seasonal discount shops which stay the minimum six months then move.Asking what can be done is rather simplifying the situation, although one person or group can answer the question and solve the problem.The reason as pointed out by others is that Rent is high, (or perceived to be high).Business Rates, Utilities, Levys for Upkeep are what really clobber startups, and deter big chains. They all have to work out where they can trade and retain most of their profit to either reinvest or pay staff and themselves. Online alleviates almost all overheads.This is why I always wonder why so many people choose to start the same type of business that has already failed in a location, or is already saturated with similar business models.Nail Bars are the latest. No one has anything unique which makes them stand out, so it's not the best who survive but the cheapest.What the councils need to do is reduce the rates for startups.But people need to start small with market stalls. Shorter term commitments, less outlay from their life savings, and low overheads.I personally am fed up with, Cash for Gold, Nail Bars, Bookies, Mobile Phone Shops and Hair Dressers occupying all the smaller units in town centres, whilst Charity shops are starting to move to the larger ones. But if people don't sell what people want, then they won't stay in business, and if you can get it cheaper elsewhere, then times never look good for town centre shops.If an upturn occurs, and more than one decent shop occupy an area, it makes the area a place to be, as footfall increases, it breeds vibrancy.Maybe the government should offer the larger retailers incentives to take up the larger units in underused areas by letting them off the employers tax contribution for young staff - which would encourage them to employ school leavers. This would reduce their overheads, boost employment and help make areas more prosperous for the small businesses that are also there.”
Tuesday, October 16 2012, 8:41PM
“Their are many factors here:1 Business rates2 Demand for certain shops3 Price or unit (renting or buying)etcBig stores have failed, therefore the demand for them is not there! Only set -up a business that is wanted and is cost effective etc...”
Tuesday, October 16 2012, 9:01PM
“umm i would like to see more shops full stop itis like a ghost town arm :( x”
Tuesday, October 16 2012, 10:12PM
“I agree C10, but the big stores have simply moved to cheaper premises which serve their needs better in places like Fosse Park.Car Parking is a big factor and Granby Street isn't somewhere I'd want to be loading my car up on a busy saturday afternoon. Also some of the big chains have reduced their stores throughout the country in an attempt to stave off administration so we can't blame Leicester for that bit I'm afraid.City Centre shops cost more to run and those costs are passed on to the customer. Unfortunately the customer is skint at the moment. So the only way to get the customer to buy from you is to drop your price - and the only way to do that is to get rid of the white elephant that is a city centre shop and move to a retail park.The small retailers don't have that option - so they either go under, reduce their trading hours, or move to a market location.Things will pick up when the economy recovers. But if you look at Nottingham or Plymouth or Lincoln they are all the same.Like you and I said - a bit of research before committing to high overheads would save a lot of despair.”
Wednesday, October 17 2012, 4:32PM
“Bring back the sweet shops?”
Thursday, October 18 2012, 12:23PM
“Maybe if more retail staff treated their customers with respect, they might encourage more trade. Many are badly trained or just rude people. They have no idea about consumer law either. For e.g. the clothes shop next to The Works is telling it's customers that it's not doing refunds or replacements because they're closing soon! This is an illegal policy but many retailers do not seem to know that.”
Saturday, October 20 2012, 3:27PM
“Consumer Rights might need to be looked at here?”
Thursday, October 25 2012, 9:03AM
“by whom C10?
The Sale of Goods Act is quite specific about disclaimers and liquidated stock,
also about the refund and exchange policy regarding liquidated business.
If you buy something you aren't happy with, you have 28 days to return it.
The shop can insist that only faulty items can be returned.
Despite millions of women, my wife included, taking clothes home to try on, then returning them - this is not compulsory, as all the shops have a changing room.
Most do it out of good will. Where packaging has been damaged the goods are generally re-sold as returns at a reduced cost which the vendor accepts to maintain consumer satisfaction.
If the shop says no returns or refunds - outright - they are wrong.
If it says faulty goods only - they are ok as long as they provide support to honour the guarantee.
If it is a planned sale of stock prior to ceasing trading. I.e. I've decided to pack up and retire - then the vendor must make provision for faulty goods to be returned.
If it's a liquidated sale - the liquidator must make provision
If it's an unofrseen closure - then you must write to the administrator, it will be up to them, you will go on the list of creditors and will be remunerated in relevant order.
Below the Tax Office, Banks and Creditors, Staff, Suppliers, Landlords, Utility Suppliers,
Credit recovery and Administrators. Credit notes and vouchers are written off, refunds out of any liquidated funds is unlikely but is purely good will.
It's more complicated than this, each case is taken on merit.
But as Musical K said - the Sign saying no refunds or replacements in any circumstance is not in itself illegal, but it carries no legal weight. There is no consumer issue in this disclaimer, unless you spot the sign after you purchase an item.. because you aren't classified as a consumer until you buy something, you could simply say, don't like your attitude I won't buy from you and walk out.
Consumer rights - is not a bill or act in this country, it's is encompassed in the Consumer Protection Act, but as stated - store policy is not covered in this act, it's covered in the Sale of Goods Act, and Advertising Standards if included in external advertising.”
Thursday, October 25 2012, 2:38PM
“"Consumer Rights might need to be looked at here?""by Chappy1884 Thursday, October 25 2012, 9:03AM""by whom C10?Are you asking me for the history of the Consumer Right's Act?”
Thursday, October 25 2012, 2:57PM
“Open another Chicken or Piza shop??”
Thursday, October 25 2012, 4:30PM
“Maryland Chicken and Pizza outlets are already on that street?”
Thursday, October 25 2012, 11:30PM
“That is true.”
Friday, October 26 2012, 2:12PM
“couldn't they make more flats but cheaper ones so we can afford them??? x”
Saturday, October 27 2012, 7:23PM
“In the late 1970's/early 1980's Gallowtree Gate was second only to Oxford St in both footfall and turnover and was a highly desirable location. Today, like most of the centre,it is experiencing a slow lingering death brought on, although not exclusively so, by the indoor shopping precinct. What customers the city attracts rarely step out of the place. The only reason for the protracted nature of these death throes is the continued presence of Marks & Spencer. There may will be a point when M&S decide it's no longer worth it and retreat to their grade A unit at Fosse Park and that should be interesting to see. Other factors one may also consider are ludicrous parking charges and restrictions, train and bus companies seeing their customers as cash cows, millions of traffic lights that lengthen journey times and increase fuel consumption (that is, an irreplaceable fuel burnt doing nothing! History will not look kindly at this)) hideous slabs or whatever they're called and a lack of 'destinations' if you don't want to either eat, drink or shop. The precinct shouldn't be complacent either as the clothes stores hold that together as, in my experience, woman are more complex buyers and like the tactile aspect of shopping for clothes that shopping on line fails to give them.”
Saturday, October 27 2012, 11:58PM
“Cityc10. Yes please I would to know the history of this act you speak of. (Consumer Rights Act).
Preferably without quoting the Consumer Protection Act 1987, or the Sale of Goods Act 1979.
Which I was under the impression were sufficient in themselves.
Could you tell me it's implementation date, if it is statute or what revision it's on.
Not being pedantic.
It would be handy to know - because people may need to know if they go to court quoting this act. Is it a still a bill awaiting approval? Just wondering why I haven't heard of it.”
Sunday, October 28 2012, 7:07PM
“Consumer Protection Chappy? "Not being pedantic." - I know :), nor am I Chappy.”
Sunday, October 28 2012, 9:00PM
“Chappy that is good news, I work in a library part-time, I hope to see you here soon? ;)”
Sunday, October 28 2012, 9:31PM
“Lovely Chappy, that will help others with their rights, thanks for the hard work. A good and useful post, cheers mate.”
Monday, October 29 2012, 7:34PM
“Not hard work at all - like to keep my eye in. David JCB - I spend plenty of time in Libraries, thanks for the invitation though.”
Tuesday, October 30 2012, 7:48PM
“by Chappy1884Monday, October 29 2012, 7:34PM"Not hard work at all - like to keep my eye in. David JCB - I spend plenty of time in Libraries, thanks for the invitation though."Not a problem at all Chappy.”
Saturday, November 03 2012, 10:03PM
“Muslim prayer room seems like the preferred optionLeicester City Council Tax payers to pay the rent (all in the name of diversity and equality of course)”
Friday, November 16 2012, 7:24PM
“My biggest gripe about empty shops is the fact folks seem to mistake them for garbage cans.Junk just dumped in doorways and never seems to get cleaned up.”
Sunday, November 18 2012, 1:02PM
“It is a hard to know what to do with them as no one has got money :( x”
Sunday, November 18 2012, 3:44PM
“Spalding...be realistic...sups is unable to answer a question .”
Sunday, November 18 2012, 6:14PM
“Sell them off and let others have ago at running a business, that would be a good start.”
Monday, November 19 2012, 11:48AM
“Sell them to who happy1900? Surely if these others had such a cracking business plan, there wouldn't be any empty shops.
It may have escaped your attention, but businesses in a capitalist economy aren't run by the state. You can't force businessmen and women to open shops just to make your town look pretty. What you can do is attract them there with lower rates, and other attractions, which will bring customers to the area and increase footfall, and potential sales.
You don't see Prada shops at motor racing circuits, and you don't see Burger Vans at Catwalks.. but you do see a variety of shoppers flocking to well kept City Centres, even if they are just out for a walk.. It's about creating the right environment to attract business, which will bring in more clientele and attract further investment.
In these times with Online Sales and out of town retail parks - where you can park for free and not worry about traffic jams, or clambering onto public transport with all your bags, there is a lot of competition.
The only thing councils and government can do is make the area attractive, and hopefully the businesses will follow. But in the current climate there are a lot of other problems to fix. That is just a plain and simple fact.”
Monday, November 19 2012, 2:02PM
“Property owners who can afford to hold on to the property will not be selling any time soon. They would almost certainly take a hit.What would be beneficial however is ensuring that these properties are kept clean and well maintained (at the owners expense) so that the general public doesnt have to see a garbage filled eyesore.”
Monday, November 19 2012, 11:58PM
“Brendon - are you referring to the state that a vacating tenant leaves the property in, if so, yes I agree, sometimes it's like they just locked the doors and left it as is.I think the tenants should remove all signage, and blank out the windows at the very least.If you are referring to litter in the doorways, then surely that is not the shop owner's responsibility, nor the previous tenant or the council. The real root of the problem lies firmly with the lazy and dirty individuals who dropped the litter or fouled in the doorways.I often get Crisp bags in my front hedge from the school kids, I pick them up and stick them in the bin, sometimes there are none, sometimes it gets quite bad, I certainly would never advocate anyone taking me to task or making me pay to clear it up. And I doubt a lot of property owners in Leicester City Centre have even set foot in the properties in years, if at all.”
Tuesday, November 20 2012, 4:21AM
“I was thinking more along the lines of storefronts of vacant shops being used as sleeping holes and dumping grounds. Property may be vacant, but someone still owns it.
Keep it clean, empty or not. I seem to recall the market place heading up to Saint Martins being a dump.”
Tuesday, November 20 2012, 10:17PM
“like i said brendon, the owner could barricade the doorway and threshold area, making the place look like a disused council precinct from the 70's, but avoiding the problems you mention.Or people could stop treating them as a dumping ground. After all if you dump litter in someone elses doorway, it's no different from fly tipping, whether the property is occupied or not. As for people sleeping rough in the doorways, that again isn't really the owner's problem, that is a problem for the local authorities and the police.”
Thursday, November 22 2012, 5:42PM
“make business rates cheaper chappy, this might help new businesses open”
Thursday, November 22 2012, 10:31PM
“Happy1900 - in my post Monday, November 19 2012, 11:48AM"What you can do is attract them there with lower rates"..Not sure if you were telling me or agreeing with what I'd already mentioned. But yes that is one way of attracting businesses into underused prime locations.”
Friday, November 23 2012, 2:47PM
“I agree with both Happy and Chappy, the business taxes should be reduced, or rethought for new businesses in general. However, do big or small companies see a market in Leicester's city centre? In other words, does Leicester attract businesses, or not?”
Sunday, November 25 2012, 11:51AM
“Yes it is chappy i agree there.”
Sunday, November 25 2012, 6:13PM
“What does Leicester's city centre really need, that it does not have?”
Sunday, November 25 2012, 9:20PM
“Pret a manger. All bar one. Harvey Nichols. Krispy Kreme. Paul Smith. Independent clothes shops especially for men.”
Tuesday, November 27 2012, 2:11PM
“C10, I think Leicester's City centre needs to be easy to move around,to feel safe without giving the impression of being over-regulated,to be clean, and to cater for the needs of those who shop in each area.In other words.Pedestrianise the high footfall areas and keep the narrow throroughfares uncluttered,no bins, litter, buskers and beggars or demonstrators.Keep the wide throroughfares less cluttered, put in bins and benches in areas people want to sit rather than in a convenient space.Improve lighting so it is attractive and effective without being intrusive, same with cameras.Sort out a central transport ring - which cannot be used by ordinary cars and taxis' only electric buses, and establish smaller hubs a bit further out, to give the impression of an uncluttered city centre. And restrict delivery times in pedestrianized routes.lastly have lower introductory rental schemes, and carefully consider what businesses populate an area - don't fill an entire street with mobile phone shops all selling the same thing, especially if the area has a history of failing businesses. Also give consideration to small businesses in low yield properties. There is a trend for firms like Thorntons, and the Mobile phone providers to gobble up the little shops with low floor rent and manage their stock from one large central shop - this restricts areas that a small business can occupy, and also makes the other shops in that area more expensive to rent or buy as landlords see the possibility of attracting these large chains into their small premises in these new style kiosk shops.Forcing the small businesses into back streets, where tourists are less likely to go.It's all about realisation of expectations, planning, consideration and image.Oxford Street in London is a horrible place - but people flock there, the pavements can't take the capacity, cars busses and delivery vehicles take up the street, you can't actually see what is there most of the time you are bundled along.Leicester used to have a 4 main lengthy shopping streets all better than Oxford Street.London Road through Granby Street and Gallowtree Gate down Belgrave Gate to Melton Road was once the longest tenuous shopping thoroughfare in Britain. Now it's more fragmented.Belvoir Street to Charles Street was a good length shopping street.Humberstone Gate all the way up to High Cross was another major draw.Market Street through St Martins is smaller but equally as important.And you have the outlying areas like Narborough Road,Times have changed, and no one would expect city centre shoppers to cover these kind of distances in one trip on foot, but as things have become run down, we've turned our back and gone to shiny superstores in out of town park locations. Our big department stores are from a bygone age.Tidying it all up and reducing rates to make it competitive is the only way we can save it.The council and department of trade should visit places like Scandinavia if they want to see how to make the most of a layout not dissimilar to our own.”
Tuesday, November 27 2012, 4:21PM
“Hi Chappy:I am right to state you want the following removed from the city centre of Leicester "Pedestrianize the high footfall areas and keep the narrow thoroughfares uncluttered, no bins, litter, buskers and beggars or demonstrators." – If so how do you aim the council (or others) achieve this goal/objective, it is realistic? I am not sure it is at all, how can you remove these elements from any city centre?”
Tuesday, November 27 2012, 8:09PM
“Not saying remove them C10 at all.Improve them and make them sacrosanct. at the moment there is too much of a mish mash.Nottingham is similar busses trams, and road sweepers in pedestrian areas. It just needs a bit of a rethink that's all. Make it one or the other..”
Tuesday, November 27 2012, 9:17PM
“It would be very hard to removed some of the issues raised I thought Chappy, not saying they are good or bad ideas. Just not very doable or realistic, how do you remove beggars etc? Leicester looks more inviting now with the new train station and the pedestrian zones leading down to the city centre. If anything Leicester is the best it has ever looked in my opinion. However, businesses do not seem/wish to open there. There must be more to it, but what?”
Wednesday, November 28 2012, 9:14PM
“just money,no one wants to be the only shop in an empty precinct, as no one will walk past your window,problem is no one can afford these shops, and shoppers would rather go elsewhere.vicious circle unfortunately.”
Wednesday, November 28 2012, 9:26PM
“There is no money in Leicester.”
Thursday, November 29 2012, 11:13AM
“thing is we dont need much coz most shops are in the highcross now x”
Thursday, November 29 2012, 12:39PM
“by Rachel_LeicsThursday, November 29 2012, 11:13AM"thing is we dont need much coz most shops are in the highcross now x"I think this is the underlying issue. A combination of the recession and the Highcross has challenged the more traditional shopping areas. Diversification is required, lower rents and encourage independent shops are all key to regenerating these areas. Hopefully the Silver Arcade will prove that there is life outside the High Cross and could in turn have a further reaching positive effects.”
Thursday, November 29 2012, 7:22PM
“Jag - Is the Highcross the same place as the High Cross?”
Thursday, November 29 2012, 7:52PM
“Not at all Jag - I am not from Leicester, so was making sure.”
Thursday, November 29 2012, 11:00PM
“does it really matter how you spell it? It was hardly confusing.”
Friday, November 30 2012, 1:08AM
“Same old, same old”
Friday, November 30 2012, 3:14PM
“Why is it weird to have an issue about Leicester on a Leicester/Leicestershire website?”
Monday, December 03 2012, 9:23PM
“It not weird at all City10”
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