“The only hope for this hospital is to sack Hindle and the Board”

“@planet jane..re-post:.a typical workplace can either be subjective or objective.A care home is a subjective enviroment..for example alzhiemer residents cannot reasonably be expected to make objective day to day decisions.It logically follows that staff should be objective in order to access requirements..and effectively think for the residents..No problem there. Degrees of objective or subjective qualities re- persons looking for a job vary.This quality is sometimes perhaps overlooked at the interview stage in favour of modern-training trends or recruitment scoring.”

“@intrest What are you on about?

@DonHenson You have misread or misunderstood what I posted. Trained "nurses" do have degrees yes. But nursing assistants (previously nursing auxiliaries) don't. I do agree with you though, degree trained nurses are not getting the hands-on training the old SENs/SRNs used to get.

And yes, I do think there is an issue with nurses who don't speak good English and have been recruited from other countries, whatever those countries are.”

“An unaccountable board shirk responsibility again and sacrifice those at the sharp end in the under resourced wards.
Maybe Mr Seddon should explain why the Trust employed "financial consultants" at a cost of £564,000 + expenses & VAT to "assist" rather than following the "Do more with less" mantra the staff get?
Maybe Carol Ribbins should try a job swop for a week and see what those at the coal face are having to put up with.
Last weeks request for nursing staff to "give" a shift to cope with patient levels says more about UHL`s precarious state than anything else.”

“..in reply..Some nurses or care workers are perhaps job-chosen for subjective reasons such as cosmetic ones..this can happen.Surely they should ideally be as objective as the management.The recruitment process supposedly should reflect this by employing objective staff as a priority..rather than giving way to employment ikon ideals..trends...and protocol.”

“Even though this problem happened months ago, and how awful it must have been for the family involved, there doesn't seem to be much improvement today.

We've an elderly relative in the LRI who has been there for 2 weeks, and no one wants to give out any information as to the diagnosis and prognosis. Nurses say ask the doctor, but doctor is too busy.

Just why it is impossible to get information? It's easier to get an audience with the Pope.

We've reminded staff that drip bags are empty and need changing, and all they do is nod but do nothing.

Management seem more interested in ticking boxes and meeting targets, than getting sufficient staff of the necessary quality to give the primary care that the patients need.”

“i am a nurse and am appalled what has happened to DUTY OF CARE????? i myself was admitted recently to the LGH and lasted one night. Urine left in tiolets in containers, being woke up at 6am for medication and only being offered pain relief forgeting routine medication. Other patients antibiotics not being given for two days,being seen by 3 different SHO's all saying different things??? i found myself putiing on my nursing head supporting the other patients and then being discussed as being a complainer!!! i respect my role as a nurse and always put my patients needs first, l am passionate about being a nurse and understand other comments made but if we can remember why we came into nursing? because we care!!! and that how would we want a family member to be cared for when in hospital? when you next carry out a duty.
NHS managers white paper going lean in the NHS great as a model to reduce costs but not effecting the overal care of patients.”

“@PlanetJane

They're all nurses: their degree tells them so. But the training involves less "hands on" care and so they don't learn what it's really all about these days.”

“I can tell you Planet Jane what is happening to our nurses, they are all leaving the NHS because they are fed up with staffing shortages, lack of support, long unfriendly hours and poor pay. Those that step into their shoes are usually those that have been recruited from third world countries, and their qualifications are not up to the standards in our country. Blame the managers for this, they employe these people without thinking about how their lack of knowledge and experience can and does put patients at risk. Often our newly trained nurses struggle to get jobs and this is after three years training, the reason because the jobs have been given to nurses from other countries. I have witnessed one nurse on an adult ward taking each patients Blood Pressure without speaking one word to any of the 20 or so patients. She was not speaking because her English was so poor and also because she did not see patients as individuals, her attitude was in fact cruel to those patients but I bet not one of them complained. Until we all make the managers aware of the problems this will continue. So make an official complaint.”

“I suspect the nurses that care have actually quit the profession for the reasons of being unable to give hands on care that they were trained for and want to give. They have targets to meet and paperwork piled on them, then made totally responsible for the care on their wards, yet are given fewer and fewer staff to actually achieve it. They quit feeling increasingly more depressed about failing their patients yet the senior managers keep their exceptionally highly paid jobs and pile on ever more work to the remaining staff.
Performance management is what will happen to the staff on the ward yet they are probably doing the best they can with the staffing levels they have and ever decreasing resources. Who performance managers the senior managers????”