What has happened to Leicester's former Phoenix arts centre
After a successful campaign to retain the building , what has happened to Leicester’s former Phoenix arts centre? Adam Wakelin discovers a little-used venue and a lot of disappointed ex-supporters
It looks like a building that's trying very hard not to draw attention to itself, does the former Phoenix. Perhaps that's the plan. The entire exterior is now painted dead pigeon grey.
There's no sign up any more and no sign of life inside. Not today, anyway.
Eastern Bloc incognito seems to be the theme, a dourly functional motif seemingly inspired by Russian storage sheds.
Julian Wright, who ran the "Save the Phoenix" campaign to keep it as a live venue open to the public, reaches for another analogy.
"It's like a stealth aircraft," he sighs.
It's easy to forget about the old Phoenix, particularly when the new Phoenix Square is in financial crisis.
But cast your mind back. Close your eyes. Retrieve the memories of last year when the fate of this arts centre off Upper Brown Street, Leicester, hung in the balance, as the shiny new model in the Cultural Quarter neared completion.
Morris Men danced for it, drummers drummed, Julian campaigned and the city council actually did something popular.
It stepped forward, took a bow to public opinion represented by an 850-odd signature petition and saved the building.
A five-year lease handing the council-owned venue over to Leicester College – one of three bidders who threw their hats into the ring – was agreed in principle in November.
It looked, at the time, like a great deal for everyone.
The college, backed by a consortium of savvy local music promoters, would use the venue to extend its performing arts teaching.
The promoters would put on gigs for the paying public. Jazz and folk clubs which had been part of the much-loved Phoenix scene for more than 20 years would be allowed to remain.
Stride, a social enterprise which helps young people who have struggled with mainstream education, was also to be involved, despite seeing its bid to run the centre declined.
This building – now renamed Upper Brown Street – should be humming by now. Clearly, that's not the case.
As things stand, it never will be, reckons Andy Wright, part of the alliance of promoters who were meant to be bringing live music to the venue.
The contract finally offered by Leicester College was completely unworkable, he claims.
"We had several meetings and discussed our role and it certainly didn't involve us getting charged obscene amounts of money to put on a programme for their benefit," he says.
In his opinion: "We helped them win the bid and then they cut us out."
The Sunday Jazz Club and Saturday Folk Club are both still out in the cold.
Jazz club founder Joan McWhirter's last letter to the college remains unanswered. She says she's not heard from them for several months.
Stride has also not been brought on board, despite the council stipulating it should be involved when Leicester College was granted the lease.
Like Joan, Stride chief executive David Brazier is in the dark about the college's plans.
"I would love to hear from Leicester College about what their proposals are," he says. "I'm disappointed not to have done so.
"As far as I can see, a lot of opportunities have been missed.
"Obviously, we were disappointed not to be given the lease ourselves. If we had been given the go-ahead, we would have had a programme running."
Getting live music into the venue again is still very much part of the plan, stresses the college's programme area manager John Meredith – at least as far as he understands.
Two student end-of-year shows have been staged in the venue, he says .
The building may be quiet now but it will spring back into life when the new term starts.
Which is all well and good but what about everything else that was promised?
Everything is behind schedule, John admits.
The lease was not finally signed until February and repairs to the building – funded by a £25,000 grant from the Norman Gill Charitable Trust – took longer than anticipated.
Departures of key college staff have also added to the delays.
John has not been part of the day-to-day discussions and plans for Upper Brown Street's future.
The two people from the college who were – project manager Deane McQueen and curriculum area manager for media and performing arts Rob Thompson – have both taken early retirement.
That, perhaps, has meant certain decisions have been left to dangle.
A new curriculum area manager has now been appointed, explains John, and she will pick up the threads of the project when she starts in October. Interviews to find a venue manager are also being carried out.
The aim, as far as John understands it, is to bring back the jazz and folk clubs and get gigs booked by the coalition of local promoters by early next year.
Promoter Andy has serious doubts about that. The deal currently on the table from the college means live music is a non-starter, he says.
The college wants £800 for a £15-a-ticket sold-out show, claims Andy. Promoters generally work on the principle of paying £1 per seat in a venue. Upper Brown Street has 260 seats.
Not only that but it wants promoters to pick up overheads, not charged by anywhere else.
Why would anyone want to book an act in the old Phoenix when you can get the 350-capacity Y-Theatre for as little £175 on some nights? asks Andy.
He can book the new 500-capacity O2 Academy for far less than £800, he says, and be almost guaranteed an audience thanks to its fantastic marketing and ticketing operation.
No promoter will use Upper Brown Street on those terms, reckons Andy. "They've made it impossible to put on an event in there," he adds.
"The college is either being very naive or very calculated."
Campaigner Julian has his own suspicions.
"It looks like they have commandeered it (the building) for themselves," he says.
"What Leicester College has done is to turn the old Phoenix into something invisible.
"I didn't care who got it as long as there was music in there.
"Phoenix Arts is a public space, built with public money. It has a history of putting on live entertainment and it should continue to do so."
Stride's David senses the "dead hand of bureaucracy" at work.
"As far as the college is concerned this is an incidental side issue of no great importance," he says.
"When the Phoenix opened it was down to a bunch of people interested in music, performance art and dance. They came together and created a venue for Leicester.
"We all have a stake in it but we're not getting much value out of it at this moment.
"I'm sure a page in the Leicester Mercury will prompt Leicester College to make the right noises but we've all heard lots of good noises before."
John believes that, fundamentally, everyone is after the same thing.
"I totally want to see this work," he says. "I'll do everything I can to make it work."
Read Part One of Adam's report - on the new Phoenix Square and its problems









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by Karin, Oadby
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 8:02PM
“Red, if the Phoenix does fail it won't be because of me,I use at at least once a week. However, the cultural quarter is a 'quiet peaceful part of town' because no-one wants to go there!!! In fact a few weeks ago a friend bought me Phoenix vouchers as he knows I enjoy the place so much. Guess where he went to buy them - yep, Upper Brown Street.”
by Tony Church, Leicester
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 7:39PM
“Red, I told a 'female friend' about our exchange. Her comment was she'd only go into that area at night if she was in a large crowd. She used to go to the old place on her own. So I accept that you may be perfectly correct, but you have a montain to climb to change peoples fears, justified or not. Whilst you and others are doing your best to do that, my friend and others feel they have lost access to a community resource.”
by Red, Leicester
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 6:00PM
“Tony, maybe your 'female friends' have the 'perception' of the place being 'badlands' because people like you talk it down at any opportunity?
I know people who live there ("industrial wasteland"! No! Home to hundreds of people? Yes!) and they say that it's a quiet, peaceful part of town. Wherever people are getting this "perception" from (the Mercury comments pages?) it's wrong. And the more people who use the area, the safer it will feel.
Stop moaning about it and go and use it, you might like it!”
by B, Leicester
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 1:12PM
“How come they can't even manage a "We Have Moved" sign on the old Phoenix? It will probably all be DMU student flats soon rendering this discussion pointless....”
by Lucile, Leics
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 11:40AM
“Leicester College is the worst college to be involved with. Poor admin and incompetent staff is the reason for this.
And "The college wants £800 for a £15-a-ticket sold-out show" ??
Maybe for a play but for a gig? Maybe they are being calculating or, as we all suspect, plain stupid. Well known bands used to play at the Charlotte for £12 sometimes, and the chances of anybody remotely famous playing at this venue (especially with O2 arena and maybe Auditorium ect) is practically nill. So who is going to fork out £15 to watch an unknown band or those jazz groups?
(no offence to them, but that price as they know is unachievable, especially in leicester where venues struggle to get people when tickets are a fiver.”
by peter garrity, Bangkok
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 9:53AM
“Having worked for the College for many years this sorry tale does not surprise me at all. The problem with College management is that they are mostly unqualified as managers and are mainly teaching staff that have had enough of teaching. They certainly seem to have a Cinderella attitude to financial planning as the recent rebuild of the College was planned to cost just over 30 million, but ended up costing over 40 million. As the saying goes they do not live in the real world, indeed many have never worked in the real word either. The College history of such commercial partnerships is hardy encouraging, what happened to Pennine Training or the National Print Skills Centre? to name just two. I would bet that the two managers taking 'early retirement' have other jobs lined up, probably in the lucrative public sector as well. In my opinion the whole structure of College management is fraught with over staffing and incompetence. I should know as last year it took them four months to provide me with a reference, and then it was still wrong! The College should stay clear of anything commercial as they do not have a grasp of economics, planning or co operating with bodies outside of the uncountable and unrealistic world of education.”
by Gee, Leicester East
Tuesday, August 31 2010, 1:48AM
“To me, the obvious 'cultural' part of the city is the market place area. The market should have been relocated(plenty of places close by):the new theatre(now 'Curve')should have been built using the ancient & beautiful Corn Exchange facade as the entrance: A fountain(new or the one from town hall square)placed in the centre of the(now market)area, along with seating, lighting & art works;
the space could also be used for outdoor theatre, shows, acts etc and the shops surrounding would contain many bars, eateries etc. The Phoenix could have been part of the Highcross development or sited somewhere like Granby st or High street. Then you would have a cultural area taking in the old & the new, and in a prime position to attract residents & visitors alike(I often travel to the Theatre Royal in Nottingham for the ambience of the place(and it produces POPULAR plays, shows, etc. as well as the new arty stuff). The Curve(a real clinic of a theatre)along with the rest of the 'cultural quarter' will never, in my opinion, achieve the potential that a central siting such as I suggest would. And the wonderful Exchange and some beautiful surrounding buildings-look up-will never be seen in the glory that they warrant. A 'cultural quarter' in an intimidating, lonely and dilapidated industrial area was never going to take off. I'm sorry, because we really need some 'culture' in this city, more so than another block of retail outlets!”
by Tony Church, Leicester
Monday, August 30 2010, 10:44PM
“Red, whether they are really the 'badlands' or not, that's what people perceive them to be and perception can be just as powerful as reality. All I know is that many of my female friends would not chance going to that part of the city at night, when before they would have gone to the old site. Perhaps you have different sorts of contacts to me? If not, perhaps it's you who's looking at the somewhat still isolated St. George's through the rosy lenses.”
by fay, Leicester
Monday, August 30 2010, 9:56PM
“Interesting the two project managers working for Leicester College have taken "early retirement". Lets hope we will now see more positive action and a better working relationship developed with key partners.”
by Red, Leicester
Monday, August 30 2010, 9:09PM
“Can we just out an end to this silliness that the new Phoenix (a much better building than the old Pheonix, much better screening facilities, much better air conditioning, much (MUCH) better seats...) is in the "badlands". As I have said until I am blue in the face (not a good look for me) this area is no more nor less dangerous than anywhere else in Leicester - and as such is not very dangerous at all! I have walked around there at all times of day and night without let and hindrance. I've even managed to park nearby!
As someone who remembers when the Phoenix was located in a bit of waste ground next to some derelict buildings (with a charming portacabin in the aforementioned waste ground) I think some people are looking at it through distinctly rose coloured spex.”