'Racist' remarks probed by police
Police are investigating remarks made by a councillor at a meeting to discuss plans for a travellers' site.
Robert Fraser, county councillor for Groby and Ratby, said Romanians would "stick a knife in you as soon as look at you", and that some Europeans "make the Irish look like complete amateurs".
Travellers' spokesman, Alfred Kefford, said he was outraged by the Conservative councillor's "racist" comments.
He heard them after footage of the meeting was posted on video website YouTube. He complained to the police.
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Today, Coun Fraser, a former county council member for equality, apologised and said he regretted the "spur-of-the-moment" remarks.
He made the comments at a Groby Parish Council meeting called after the Leicester Mercury revealed plans for a site for about 50 caravans off Sacheverell Way, in Groby.
Responding to an audience member who spoke about the level of knife crime allegedly linked to the travelling community, Coun Fraser said: "The Romanians, they'll stick a knife in you as soon as look at you.
"There might be some good ones. Forgive me if there are any Romanians here (the audience laughs) and hopefully that's a 'no' because I wouldn't get out of here (he points at a walking stick). I'm a bit slow."
He also told the audience: "By gosh, some of these European ones, they make the Irish look like complete amateurs and I would dread, I would dread to see them in Groby."
Mr Kefford, chairman of the Leicester Gipsy Council Liaison Group, said: "I'm appalled, shocked and disgusted at these comments.
"They are racist. A lot of damage has been done and seeing these comments on YouTube, of all places, is very, very hurtful.
"If they were directed at any other ethnic group, there would be a public outcry.
"We are trying hard to break down barriers between the gipsy community and the public, and things like this certainly do not help.
"We are a race of people who have been around for hundreds of years. We are an ethnic group."
Calling for Coun Fraser to resign, he said the comments were akin to "incitement to racial hatred", adding: "To do it in a public place is totally unacceptable."
Dr Ion Jinga, Romanian ambassador to the UK, said the comments were "extremely regrettable and totally unfair". He said: "I would like to remind your readers that Romanians are citizens of the European Union, like the British people are."
"Romanians living in the UK are, in an overwhelming majority, highly skilled, hard workers and respectful to the laws, just as the few thousands of British citizens living in Romania are."
After being contacted by the Mercury, Coun Fraser said he "bitterly regretted" the "spur-of-the-moment comment" which "may have caused offence to the majority of decent, law-abiding Romanian people".
He said: "There was no intent on my part to introduce any racist element into the meeting, but I accept I may have allowed my judgement to become momentarily clouded.
"I would like to stress my awareness of the fact that an increasing number of Britons now holiday perfectly safely in Romania each year, and if the opportunity arose, I would quite happily holiday there myself. I don't regard myself as a racist in any way. In fact, I have an excellent record of positively working with, and on behalf of, Leicestershire's minority groups in my time as county council member for equalities."
Coun Fraser said he did not know the meeting was being filmed and said he did not think he should resign over the matter.
Hundreds of residents attended the meeting at Groby Community College on January 8 to discuss the travellers' site plan by Hinckley and Bosworth Borough Council.
Among the speakers was Conservative MP for Charnwood, Stephen Dorrell.
He told the Mercury he thought Coun Fraser's comments were "extremely unwise", but not racist.
He said: "I don't think what he said should necessarily lead to his resignation, but his words were extremely unwise and plain wrong in my view.
"Romania is a country of 50 or 60 million people and the majority of those are fine, law-abiding people.
"I don't think it's racist because I don't think that Romanians are a race of people. The comments are anti-Romanian."
Peter Batty, parish council chairman and borough councillor for Groby, also spoke at the travellers' site meeting.
He said: "I think you must look at the context of that meeting. There was a lot of anxiety from a lot of people. Maybe Coun Fraser shouldn't have responded that way. I can't defend that comment. I wouldn't have said that, but I can't tell you what was going through somebody else's mind."
There were nearly 400 visits to the website footage of the meeting on YouTube. It has now been removed.
A police spokeswoman said: "The matter referred to on YouTube was brought to our attention on Friday.
"We are now carrying out an investigation to establish if any criminal offences have been disclosed."
A spokesman for the county council said the comments "will be formally investigated within the council's procedures".






Comments
by molly, leicester
Tuesday, May 05 2009, 9:43AM
“UB...i think it is right that you has been truthful in what you thinks because no MP ever speaks what he/she thinks anymore but i do think that maybe next time you should ' think before you speak'”
by Jon, Rutland
Monday, March 16 2009, 11:09AM
“Over the last 2-3 years i have had the pleasure of working with Romanians. they are hard working, intelligent, honest and relaible. we had some students who worked with us for 12 months and thier capacity to learn was admirable. We also had a party of Romanian councilors visit and they also were determined to learn and work with us to improve relationships. If only our own elected members would do the same. I know that the comments made by the disgraced councillor will upset our Romanian friends but that they do appreciate we are not all like this unfortunate councillor. This is not a question of restricting free speech it is blantant racism that does nobody any good. Roll on the next election”
by Mihai, Romania
Thursday, March 12 2009, 12:00PM
“Romanians were nominated intentionally since speaking "Gypsies" has been tailored as racist for quite a long time. While they do come in large numbers from Romania and hold Romanian ID's, I think that the 2 million Hungarians, or the tens of thousands of Ukrainians, Germans, Russians or Turks with the same Romanian passports would rightly feel annoyed if you'd devoid them of their ethnicity. I know Romanians. I am a proud Romanian myself. I have never lived in tents, ate garbage, steal or stabbed anyone. I have post graduate education, a house, a family, a pet dog and I work to exhaustion everyday. And I am not an exception. Stupidity needs new arguments and there is a fashionable idiocy nowadays to speak anti-Romanian: xenophobia has always been able to gather votes and manipulate ordinary people away from the economic problems of their country.”
by nataly, leic
Wednesday, March 11 2009, 1:46PM
“why romanians?”
by NJ, Groby
Wednesday, March 11 2009, 1:04PM
“The Councillors remarks were ill advised but if he has apologised let that be an end to it. The voters can decide at the next ballot.
Whilst I am sure that most of the travellers are law-abiding and genuine, there is an element who are nothing but freeloaders. Their only link to genuine travellers being the type of accommodation they choose to live in. These people take advantage of laws and bye-laws which are there for genuine travellers, smear their name and desecrate the area they have camped in.”
by Jim, leicester
Tuesday, March 10 2009, 2:03PM
“make the Irish look like complete amateurs ehh? well being irish i'll be more professional and wont be voting conservative”
by Matt, Leicester
Tuesday, March 10 2009, 1:12PM
“Clearly a large number of people who encounter Travellers on a regular basis have problems with their behaviour, having had no real contact with them I am not in a position to dispute that.
I would have thought though that I'd have heard in the news on an almost daily basis if in fact they were prone to 'stabbing people as soon as look at them'. I take it that Walter and mrs c must be lucky to be alive, you must where stab vests I presume.
My main point is this, if the travellers are so appalling (and maybe they are) there must be plenty that can be said to illustrate this without the need to resort to grossly inaccurate and frankly ridiculously over the top racially prejudiced statements like those made by Mr Fraser. Lets face it he wasn't being honest just trying to get a laugh from a crowd that he knew would lap it up! I don't think he is showing a lack of backbone by apologising, because I think he knows what he said was not just stupid but not true.”
by j, leic
Tuesday, March 10 2009, 12:32PM
“Dave, of course he is allowed to express an opinion but he didn't, he expressed it as FACT.
Those people of less than average intelligence will take what he said to be fact when it quite obviously isn't. People in public life should be objective and honest; I think we can all agree that these comments do not fall into either catagory!”
by Dave, Barwell
Tuesday, March 10 2009, 11:48AM
“Isn't the councillor entitled to express his opinion? If you don't happen to like what he says, tough! Free speech hasn't been banned yet, although some elements in society are trying their best.”
by Daniel, Leicester
Tuesday, March 10 2009, 9:42AM
“I agree with the comments below but what annoys me though now is that he obviously feels that way about the situation and as before mentioned not being the cleverest thing to broadcast he has done a full turn and apologised almost begged for forgiveness! if thats the way you feel and you are as walter says showing some backbone why then come straight out and admit you were wrong etc... even if i agreed or did not with the comments I would have more respect for the person saying it if they stuck by it and not backed down to simple peer pressure I think he is more damned now for being so easily turned.”